I grew up in a IFB school and then university, so I can totally relate. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. (2 Timothy 2:15), We believe the first day of the week is the Lords Day. 2Co 2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; You said we dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He wasnt saying that spanking is right or wrong, but that definitely extreme discipline and beating kids is not what the Bible teaches. Such as??? King James is the inspired word of God While I do like the old King James Bible but King James Only is wrong because its misleading and its legalism. If you pray using KJV language (thee, though, ye, etc. Believe it or not I can find time to pray while at the same time not sending my loved ones to an abusive church. Mental health issues are just another health issue people have. You can read some of the experiences here: https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/. Baptists as a whole, are pretty terrible. [11] Also in June 2019, Grayson Fritts, pastor at New IFB-affiliated All Scripture Baptist Church and a former detective for the Knox County, Tennessee, Sheriff's Office, delivered a sermon calling for the execution of gays.[12]. If you believe that going to (or sending your child to) a college thats not approved by the IFB (e.g., Bob Jones University, Pensacola Bible College, Baptist Bible College, Hyles Anderson College, Tennessee Temple University) will cause you (or your child) to become worldly or will provide an undue worldly influence on you (or your child), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 29. 10 And dont let anyone call you Teacher, for you have only one teacher, the Messiah. I do agree that any time when you have health issues its because of sin which is why God allows pain and suffering. Cleveland Baptist Church - Cleveland, OH - Pastor Kevin Folger ; Community Baptist Just because we forgive people doesnt mean we are obligated to marry them or anything else. (II Corinthians 12:12; I Corinthians 13:8; Hebrews 2:3-4; Mark 16:17-20; I Corinthians 1:22, 14:21-22). If you first came to church because Brother Dave or Brother Mike knocked on your door and invited you, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I disclosed to (2) pastors at this church personal and heart felt feelings that I thought and grew up and was told you can talk to your pastor, because he is a man of God. . We wanted help and we wanted to know what the Bible said. People are more willing to change their ways when confronted in love rather then with criticism and bitterness. 5 Everything they do is for show. God divorced Israel but Not judah..Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of WHAT?? I mean yeah, theres some truth to a lot of this. A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith around mutual interests or ministry opportunities, but one church cannot exert authority over another. They knew it would be an investment in your giving and service to them (yes they are that evil). This is just another sidetrack from the gospel of of Christ.We are to love one another and build up the church. 16. Wow. 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. I received these because of lies that I was single with no income. We believe in the natural divisions of Scriptures as a basis for study. We teach that baptism is necessary for salvation as I get this quote from the King James Version from John 3:5; Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. And I know you included that on your list, but there is a difference between joking and bitterness and I can see it in the comments as well as the post. I have 3 children I sometimes spank I sometimes lecture. I was taught that. )(yikes), because I never want to put that church building and hierarchy that rules it above Christ. Me and my boyfriend were going to break up unless there was hope for change. Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. I dont know your past, but I know mine and it aint righteous. I agree some are or at least seem to be what most consider legalistic. The end of November we were going to break up because of physical abuse so instead sought counseling for our pastor and his wife. 6 Dont waste what is holy on people who are unholy. To the author, I hope youll be okay someday and if you can find a way to dig out that root I think youll find peace. Anderson and other New IFB pastors have praised the Orlando gay nightclub shooting. Tattoos are the marks of the Devil I really dont know if they are marks of the devil but I do agree that tattoos are sinful even if its against the Old Testament. Theres a place to rebuke abusive religious practices. If you believe that secular psychology is worldly/sinful, but dont think that other areas of medicine are OK, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 45. God knows the names of his children and for anyone to accuse another of security in Christ is hypocrisy. To be brought back to the norm of what being a Christian is all about. WebIndependent Fundamental Baptist Preaching and Bible Study from the Word of God the King James Bible at Vision Valley Baptist Church in MT. We believe that men are justified by faith alone and are accounted righteous before God only through the merit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. If you think that the other translations are too wordly that right there I dont like. We believe that salvation is by grace plus nothing minus nothing. There are some things that the IFB does very well, such as fellowship. If your church allows no outside group of singers to perform at your church for fear that not all of their individual theologies line up with the churchs you might be an independent fundamental Baptist. The home, the church, and the state are equal and sovereign in their respective Biblically assigned spheres of responsibility under God. Your happy mega churches do too. Thousands of people, including myself, beg to differ. All people need to do is humbly ask for one. If your not getting a lot out of your bible read I would recommend a switch to Kjv and to define any word you dont know Slow down reading and meditate on what your reading dont read as a duty each day but as a searching for fellowship each day. And if a lost person were to stumble upon this page and read your list and how you respond to any differing opinions, would you be helping plant a seed? 17. 15. Duh Get your mind out of the gutter. My birth mother is a Catholic she didnt raise me. Hope you have a great day! I like that about them and not just them but the whole church, because the company you keep will influence you. Its our personal decisions that cause us to who to hell though most of their practices are not biblical, especially the devotions to the Virgin Mary as they especially have her as the intercessor. Ive never been instructed their acting Rebellious or looked down on or had any concern for myself but they were rebellious. I dont agree with the term, sowing discord with the brethren because I agree everything what the Bible teaches. If you think that tithing 10% of your gross income is the minimum, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 6. Clapping after special is music is wrong because it gives praise to performers rather than to God That statement is wrong. If you feel guilty for not having devotions 7 days a week, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 42. I had a pastor who was reaching out to me in the darkest part of my life, he used a broken phone as a way to get to me, he knew I could try and fix it, so he brought it to me and, rather than berating me, after I had fixed the phone he simply asked me Would it be okay if we just prayed together? and I knew, in that moment, that he actually did care about me, he didnt ask me to come to church, didnt ask for money, didnt ask for anything except for the opportunity to pray with me. If you feel compelled to go door to door witnessing (or were compelled to visit a nursing home as a teen), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 28. Maybe you had a bad experience or many years of bad experiences at an IFB church, but that will never excuse you from bad mouthing any of Gods people or the many IFB churches the Lord uses to spread His word or send missionaries to the remotest parts of the world to seek those who are lost. They are usually so full of themselves, because they went straight from salvation to knowledge, and Peter says to add to your faith virtue, and THEN go to knowledge, 2 Peter 1:5. I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. around the world wherever our Lord directs. I would have rejected the advice if in my heart If didnt want the relationship anymore, but we had a kid and I needed it to work. Its the inspired word of God. How come many Americans havent heard of the Independent Fundamental Baptist church movement? 28:19-20; Acts 2:41-42, 18:18; I Corinthians 11:23-26). Its not an Old Testament Law vs New Testament issue. Those are my concerns about the 25 topics about the Independent Fundamental Baptist beliefs. If you confuse the KJV with the KJB, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 3. I mean, why would you think its too liberal to sing anything other than hymns in the church because, there are some churches within the Southern Baptist Convention, which is different from the IFB, that have a contemporary music worship in one service and have traditional hymns in another service. Take a look here: https://www.openbible.info/topics/tithe_in_the_new_testament. You are correct! If you believe that women are inferior to men and are to be submissive to their husbands, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I already know where the IFB is coming from, I was indoctrinated in their dogma for 25 years. The Duggar family, so much in the news lately, are Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB), a loosely affiliated, singularly cultish denomination of WebThe Road to Emmaus Baptist Church is an independent Baptist church in Monaca, Pennsylvania. The two are completely unrelated. What a stupid thing to say. Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? I lied just to get government support saying My child and I live alone. That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. I assure you that Im living exactly how God wants me to be living and Im doing it outside of the IFB (yes it can be done LOL). You better be right with God and have your name written in the lambs book of life. I have no opinion on this Im glad they didnt because Id probably be ashamed admitting Im a liar. If you believe everything said in this article then you must not have spent much or any time in a fundamental church. Please read https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/ for an answer to your bitterness accusation/assumption. Who are the Independent Baptists, and what do they believe? I grew up in a baptist church and went elsewhere after college and I am learning how liberal other churches are and anything goes as long as the people are happy. If you believe that that the wine referred to in the bible is nothing more than the fruit of the vine I generally agree with this part especially when it comes to the Lords Supper because wine from a biblical perspective is grape juice even though I still question if it is NOTHING MORE than the fruit of the vine. If Just As I Am causes you to repent and go to the altar, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. 12 But those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted. Would you go back and pet a dog after it bit you? If we must consider these points as a point for consideration, these ought to be a source form the Bible. What surprises me, though, is that he was ordained as a pastor and actually called to pastor DL Moodys church in Massachusetts as a divorced man. We even have TWO. From a biblical standpoint, Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man and only Jesus can intercede us. This is simply an attempt to bring some humor to the blog for the readers enjoyment. I did read it but I still dont understand their beliefs on it.. Those who judge people like that WILL BE judged the same way, PERIOD. Baptist Smoking in itself is not sin but I do agree that smoking can cause teeth decay, lung cancer, breast cancer, etc.