If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. Although such an edge clearly exists, its significance cannot be quantified". The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. containers. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . A precision rifle enthusiast and owner of GA Precision, George likely needs little introduction. In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. They're mostly for use in an M11/9 submachinegun but they work fine in a S&W Shield also. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. COAL are generally +/- 0.005" seated using Lee seating die. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. No Charges? Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. Can't keep enough at the house. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 Every match Ive been to that chronic has the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. Why? RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. Your previous content has been restored. 115 gr xtreme load/col data? | Northeastshooters.com Forums Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. What is your favorite firearm to load for? As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. Shellholders: Lee #19 Display as a link instead, FMJ in my XD-9 vel. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. With my setup using the .32 orifice I get 3.5-3.6gr, .34 orifice 3.6-3.8gr and with the .37 orifice 4.1-4.2gr is dispensed. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. 3.4 gr. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Its popularity soared after World War II, and the U.S. military adopted the 9x19mm as its service pistol round in 1985. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I know a lot of USPSA shooters who use it for their 9mm minor loads. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. They are snappy, but fun to shoot. Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. Hodgdon Titegroup A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. I used data for 115gr FMJ because I thought that's what the Berry's bullets were. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. No issues there. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Clear editor. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. LOL. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. We will pass. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. JavaScript is disabled. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. and 8 lb. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. By I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. You accidentally load this into a rifle, or a larger pistol cartridge, its super dangerous. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! 9mm titegroup load data - Calguns.net 1.100" Starting Load Grains 3.9 9mm/38 Caliber 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder By looking4reloadingdeals December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic 513 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. I haven't shot any yet but it would be disappointing if I had to pull 150 bullets. JavaScript is disabled. I am gonna give it a try. Shoots well, functions well and it is light enough. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. I would like a lighter load for practicenothing too hot. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! You are using an out of date browser. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Seen a few of those over the years. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. CFE Pistol & Titegroup loads for 115GR Plated RN 9MM There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. Early on, its pointy full-metal-jacket rounds gave the 9x19mm a reputation as a horrible antipersonnel round. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. You say that now. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. It's for practice, not for competition. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. Sowhat about Titegroup and what do some cases look like? They are calibrated at/for specified distances. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. C.O.A.L. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. containers. Reloading Heavy Bullets in 9mm Luger - Shooting Times 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup - Northeastshooters.com Forums I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. Cases were mixed brands of commercial brass and not sorted by maker. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. Really..so, how would someone measure that? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? Warning! JavaScript is disabled. Reply Quote. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. I didn't use TG; it was Longshot (or WW452AA?) Skip this one, you can do better. Then work up from there. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. Excellent pistol powder for accuracy and cowboy action shooting. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. TiteGroup fpr 9mm | Ruger Forum Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. So filling up half way looks normal. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. Unique. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Starting at mid range up to max. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. In Pistols and Revolvers.. He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. containers. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. That's why when I figured out that my previous loads were unsafe I called Berry's to get correct info. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. Why do we load Titegroup and 124gr bullets hot? - 9mm/38 Caliber Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. I was happy at 4.0 gr in M&P 9 and Sig p938. Buy Sport Pistol or N320 instead. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. Better to be too careful than blow something up. tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. 124g berrys over 3.9g of titegroup 1.149 OAL. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. It is very aggravating not be able to find a load data for the particular bullet you'd like to use. I use tight group for 9mm. plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Titegroup powder in 9mm - Too hot? | The High Road I am also using the Xtreme bullets. I am using CBI pistol powder. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. Hodgdon Titegroup - NATO Reloading Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. I have tried this load out of my G34 and I am getting around 140PF to nearly 150PF. I've been shooting 4.0 grains of Titegroup with Berry's 124gr. 1.100 in. TiteGroup and loads - Bullseye Forum In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. Thanks for your patience. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. BrianEnos.com 6 grains? A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. and seated them to 1.150" as best as I recall. All I had was word of mouth and books. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. Upgrade efforts paused for now. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition.
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